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S.F



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you have contact with Mark Hartley, Mark Maslowicz or Matt O Driscoll btw? Did you do localisation for Sega in Spain?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a list of the info compiled with SRP...


CHILL
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-079
T-7616H-50V1.00019980119CD-1/1
E JE
CHILL

VIRTUAL-ON SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA ENTERPRISES
MK-81042 V1.00019961028CD-1/1
E J VIRTUAL-ON

NBA 97
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-50
T-5015H V1.00019940801CART16M
JTUBKAEL J
SAMPLE GAME

Olympic Soccer
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-079
T-07900A V0.00119960515CD-1/1
JUKTABEL J
OLYMPIC SOCCER


DOOM
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-000
SG0000000 V1.00019940801CART16M
JTUBKAEL J
SAMPLE GAME


Toshinden
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA ENTERPRISES
GS-9078 V1.000 19951029CD-1/1
JT JS
Tohshinden-S

Crypt Killer
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-95
T-9509H-50V1.00019961220CD-1/1
E JAM
CRYPT KILLER


NBA JAM TOURNAMENT EDITION
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-81
T-8102H-50V1.00019951005CD-1/1
E J
NBA JAM TOURNAMENT EDITION


SCORCHER
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA ENTERPRISES
MK-81214 V1.00119961201CD-1/1
UT JT
SCORCHER

STREET RACER
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-177
T-17702G V1.00019960915CD-1/1
JTUBKAEL JT
STREET RACER

RETURN FIRE
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-97
T-25410H V1.00019970212CD-1/1
E J
RETURN FIRE


COMMAND AND CONQUER
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-500000
T-7028H-XXV0.88019961005CD-2/2
E J
COMMAND AND CONQUER


Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-999
T-99901G V1.000199441122CD-1/1
JTUBKAEL J
SAMPLE GAME


Myst
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA ENTERPRISES
MK-81081 V1.00019950510CD-1/1
E M
MYST (E)
MYST

Three Dirty Dwarves
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA ENTERPRISES
MK8103300 V0.00304171996CD-1/1
JUT J
Three Dirty Dwarves


VIRTUA COP 2
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA ENTERPRISES
MK-81043 V1.00019961031CD-1/1
E JMGE
VIRTUA COP2


DIE HARD TRILOGY
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-81
T-81 V1.00019950426CD-1/1
JTUBKAEL J

U:SAMPLE GAME
SAMPLE GAME

MIGHTY HITS
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-166
T-16604G V1.00319961008CD-1/1
J JMG
MIGHTY HITS


GUARDIAN HEROES
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA ENTERPRISES
GS-9031 V1.00019951218CD-1/1
JT JT
GUARDIANHEROES


CLOCKWORK PUZZLE
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA ENTERPRISES
GS-9015 V0.00119950620CD-1/1
J J
PENGIN WAR

SHINING FORCE 3
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA ENTERPRISES
GS-9175 V0.90019980409CD-1/1
UJ JE
SHINING FORCE 3 SCENARIO 1
OHTO NO KYOSHIN A ver.

Tennis Arena
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-
T- V1.00019970705CD-1/1
JUE JT
FINAL SET


FIFA 97
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP 69
T-5017H V1.00019970216CD-1/1
E J
FIFA 97

SLAM'N JAM 96
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-159
T-15902H50V1.00019960423CD-1/1
E JT
SLAM'N JAM 96

JEWELS OF THE ORACLE
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-15
T-1503H-50V1.00019960820CD-1/1
E JM
JEWELS OF THE ORACLE

DECATHLETE
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA ENTERPRISES
MK-81501 V0.90019960523CD-1/1
JTU J
DECATHLETE


RAINBOW ISLANDS COLLECTION
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-81
T-81 V1.00019950426CD-1/1
JTUBKAEL J

U:SAMPLE GAME
SAMPLE GAME


STORY OF THOR 2
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA ENTERPRISES
MK-81302 V1.00119960530CD-1/1
JTU J
THE LEGEND OF OASIS


BATMAN COIN OP

SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-999
T-99901G V1.00019950418CD-1/1
JTUBKAEL JTUBKAEL
GAME SAMPLE
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rmonton



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

S.F wrote:
Did you have contact with Mark Hartley, Mark Maslowicz or Matt O Driscoll btw? Did you do localisation for Sega in Spain?


Nop, my boss name was Tony Takoushi, and yes, I do some Spanish localisation, but not for Saturn, for Megadrive... such as Story Of Thor, Light Crusader and Soleil/Ragnacenty.... In the Saturn age it did not work for Sega anymore, but I worked in a Spanish Magazine, called Super Juegos... Now I work for a lltle shareware company as game producer. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I forgot to up this shots, from Jewels Of The Oracle...



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S.F



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jewels of the Oracle saw an European (and Japanese) release.
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Druid II



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dot50Cal wrote:
Try turning the Scanline option off on SSF if you capture anymore images, makes screenshots a bit beter Smile

Nice stuff!

Furthermore, you can press F8 to create screenshots.
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Druid II



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VIRTUAL-ON SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA ENTERPRISES
MK-81042 V1.00019961028CD-1/1
E J VIRTUAL-ON

Doesn't match any known retail release. I'm guessing its a PAL prerelease, with a few glitches unfixed - or lacking PAL optimalization.

NBA 97
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-50
T-5015H V1.00019940801CART16M
JTUBKAEL J
SAMPLE GAME

dummy header Crying or Very sad

Olympic Soccer
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-079
T-07900A V0.00119960515CD-1/1
JUKTABEL J
OLYMPIC SOCCER

This one dates 2 months earlier then the retail.

DOOM
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-000
SG0000000 V1.00019940801CART16M
JTUBKAEL J
SAMPLE GAME

dummy header Crying or Very sad

Toshinden
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA ENTERPRISES
GS-9078 V1.000 19951029CD-1/1
JT JS
Tohshinden-S

Matches the japanese retail release except for one detail: the date is 2 days earlier.

Crypt Killer
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-95
T-9509H-50V1.00019961220CD-1/1
E JAM
CRYPT KILLER

The date is 1 month before the PAL retail version.

NBA JAM TOURNAMENT EDITION
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-81
T-8102H-50V1.00019951005CD-1/1
E J
NBA JAM TOURNAMENT EDITION

The date is 2 weeks before the PAL retail version.

SCORCHER
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA ENTERPRISES
MK-81214 V1.00119961201CD-1/1
UT JT
SCORCHER

The release date is 3 months before the PAL retail, and 2 months behind the USA retail. Furthermore the version field says v1.001, while the USA retail is v2.000 and PAL retail is v3.004.

STREET RACER
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-177
T-17702G V1.00019960915CD-1/1
JTUBKAEL JT
STREET RACER

Looks like the Japanese ntsc retail version.

RETURN FIRE
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-97
T-25410H V1.00019970212CD-1/1
E J
RETURN FIRE

Very interesting! There was a public release of Return Fire a few months back, and it had a completely different header.
The existing version dates to 1996/10/15, v1.000, and the serial is T-4805H (T-48 is the third party code for Time Warner Interactive).
Your version dates to 1997/02/12, same version #, and the serial is T-25410H - T-254 belongs to GT Interactive I believe.

However your version also says T-97 which is the third party code for Midway. I believe this is because GT Interactive published Midway games in Europe. However, these games were then marked as T-254. If I had to guess, I say your copy is a PAL optimized, complete version. (the current existing copy is USA)

COMMAND AND CONQUER
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-500000
T-7028H-XXV0.88019961005CD-2/2
E J
COMMAND AND CONQUER

This one is 3 weeks earlier then the PAL retail, and the version # is 0.880 versus the 1.000 of the retail game. The T-7028H-XX code makes me think that this was the master copy before they included the multi language FMVs (the -xx suffix is a regional flag, ex. -50 is general PAL, -18 is german, -09 is french, C&C was released in those three languages).
Does this version have FMVs? I recall that the Saturn version simple used the same video files as the PC one, so reediting the movies should've been a quick and easy job for the game makers.

Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-999
T-99901G V1.000199441122CD-1/1
JTUBKAEL J
SAMPLE GAME

dummy header Crying or Very sad

Myst
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA ENTERPRISES
MK-81081 V1.00019950510CD-1/1
E M
MYST (E)
MYST

This one is 2 months before the retail copy, and the version number is lower (v1.000 while the retail is v1.100)

Three Dirty Dwarves
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA ENTERPRISES
MK8103300 V0.00304171996CD-1/1
JUT J
Three Dirty Dwarves

The retail version dates to 1996/11/19, this one dates to 1996/04/17 - much, much earlier!

VIRTUA COP 2
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA ENTERPRISES
MK-81043 V1.00019961031CD-1/1
E JMGE
VIRTUA COP2

matches the PAL retail release.

DIE HARD TRILOGY
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-81
T-81 V1.00019950426CD-1/1
JTUBKAEL J

U:SAMPLE GAME
SAMPLE GAME

dummy header Crying or Very sad
The Third Party code (T-81) indicates Acclaim as the publisher though, while the final game had T-161 for Fox Interactive.

MIGHTY HITS
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-166
T-16604G V1.00319961008CD-1/1
J JMG
MIGHTY HITS

Interesting, this one looks like the japanese ntsc retail version, except that its actually a later version. Japanese retail is v1.002 1996/09/10, while your version is v1.003 1996/10/08. However, it is entirely possible that the v1.003 version saw a retail release as well, often games get multiple revisions, fixing critical bugs. An extreme example would be Soukyugurentai, which exhibited heavy crashing bugs in the first (v1.003) release, which were doctored in a later revision (v2.000). In such a case, it's possible that a retail version matching your copy of Mighty Hits may exist, but it's not found and documented as of yet.
But it's also possible that such a revision never took place... Can you tell us what kind of disc this game is on? Original, pressed retail Saturn discs have a code number in the inner circle of the disc, which list serial code and often revisions as well. I doubt this applies to your copy, but it can never hurt to check.


GUARDIAN HEROES
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA ENTERPRISES
GS-9031 V1.00019951218CD-1/1
JT JT
GUARDIANHEROES

sadly this one matches the japanese retail version, albeit the internal date is 3 days earlier on your copy.

CLOCKWORK PUZZLE
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA ENTERPRISES
GS-9015 V0.00119950620CD-1/1
J J
PENGIN WAR

Matches the existing copy floating on the internet.

SHINING FORCE 3
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA ENTERPRISES
GS-9175 V0.90019980409CD-1/1
UJ JE
SHINING FORCE 3 SCENARIO 1
OHTO NO KYOSHIN A ver.

The serial indicates the Japanese version, the boot code says that this disc boots on USA and Japanese Saturns, the version number is earlier then all known retail versions, and the internal date is months later then the japanese version, but 2 months before the PAL or USA retail (5 days after the Japanese release of Scenario 2 curiously).
I'm guessing that your copy may be a work-in-progress localization.

Tennis Arena
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-
T- V1.00019970705CD-1/1
JUE JT
FINAL SET

No serial nor Third Party code (the final game had T-177, Ubi Soft), and the date is more then a half year behind the final release. The version number can rarely be trusted but it's possible that the game was completed much earlier then the retail release, but was hanging around unreleased till they found a publisher. But this is pure speculation on my end, the game may be highly incomplete for all I know.

FIFA 97
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP 69
T-5017H V1.00019970216CD-1/1
E J
FIFA 97

Matches the retail PAL release.

SLAM'N JAM 96
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-159
T-15902H50V1.00019960423CD-1/1
E JT
SLAM'N JAM 96

Matches the retail PAL release.

JEWELS OF THE ORACLE
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-15
T-1503H-50V1.00019960820CD-1/1
E JM
JEWELS OF THE ORACLE

Matches the retail PAL release.

DECATHLETE
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA ENTERPRISES
MK-81501 V0.90019960523CD-1/1
JTU J
DECATHLETE

Your version is 2 months before the actual PAL retail version, also, a few weeks before the japanese and USA release. Since your copy is set to Japanese/USA region and is titled Decathlete, it's likely earlier then any console version. It is, however, a month later then the Arcade original version.
Also MK-81501 is the usa/pal serial code of Baku Baku Animal. Decathlete was MK-81115.

RAINBOW ISLANDS COLLECTION
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-81
T-81 V1.00019950426CD-1/1
JTUBKAEL J

U:SAMPLE GAME
SAMPLE GAME

dummy header Crying or Very sad
... it's interesting to note that it perfectly matches the dummy header of Die Hard Trilogy. Rainbow Island Collection was indeed produced by Acclaim by the way (T-81). The game is better known as "Bubble Bobble also featuring Rainbow Islands".

STORY OF THOR 2
SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA ENTERPRISES
MK-81302 V1.00119960530CD-1/1
JTU J
THE LEGEND OF OASIS

I'm guessing USA prerelease copy.
japanese/usa region, dates a few weeks before the USA retail. "Legend of Oasis" was the USA title for the Story of Thor games (Beyond Oasis and Legend of Oasis, for Story of Thor 1-2 respectively).


BATMAN COIN OP

SEGA SEGASATURN SEGA TP T-999
T-99901G V1.00019950418CD-1/1
JTUBKAEL JTUBKAEL
GAME SAMPLE

dummy header Crying or Very sad



For the ones with dummy header, it's possible to check the file dates for comparison with the final versions - the extended/full export in SRP can extract those values. It could give us an approximate at the very least.
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